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Citation vs. Provenance, and Their Criticality to AI Success (with John Martin)

May 13, 2026 • Steve Weissman, The Info Gov Guy™ • Season 3 • Episode 2

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If you’re exploring, piloting, or implementing AI, take note of this critical distinction when it comes to ingesting and leveraging information:

• Citation: the information exists, and I can tell you where to find it
• Provenance: the information exists, and I can tell you where to find it, where it originated, and when it arrived

Understanding the difference is foundational to getting practical value from AI, most instances of which cite their data sources but say nothing about whether those sources, or that data, is at all reliable.

Join me and John Martin, Founder & CEO of RedFile Technologies, in this edition of Speaking Of, in which we discuss the meaning and ramifications of a LinkedIn post he wrote on the subject.*

You really don’t want to miss it.

– Steve Weissman - steve@hollygroup.com
– John Martin - john_martin@redfile.ai

*Citation alert! "Why Citation Is Not Provenance" https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-citation-provenance-john-martin-obske/?trackingId=iTtM6kVT2Y1me1APTa5xrA%3D%3D)